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Extremely extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek blog post, that I really did not explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I included that factor because when I had to locate a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go through every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to locate one that wasn't sludged up really badly.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to speak concerning a few problems of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and claim one is better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the same automobile.
Mark: So, well, let's start with engines then. Let's talk concerning engine and really simply to specify that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I imply, these vans have been around for a lengthy time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has been around because, you recognize, around that time as well. So we're not going to get back into, right into the earlier stuff. Considering that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot extra prominent and I would not really recommend a V6 engine.
There's a lot of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with impact to these engines, because they really did not have sufficient threading in the stimulate plug, which caused problems.
So if you're acquiring anything from possibly 08 and more recent, you're not mosting likely to have that sort of ignition system problems. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leak, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to change the whole thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to state in their favour, due to the fact that I'm talking regarding troubles, it's a more advanced engine. Overhead camera, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is an easier style with push rods.
They're just truly pretty excellent, resilient, strong engines. You recognize, being a van, naturally, you understand, doing any kind of service on them is more challenging since you've reached get rid of that cover and get into maintenance in strange ways. Points like trigger plugs last an awful lengthy time, so they do not require to be replaced really often.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't think about if we have actually ever before done a Chevy, yet Chevy, they're readily available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a very long time, like back before the 2000 model year.
So, you understand, that's still available. I would not recommend a diesel unless you're carrying extremely heavy loads. Diesels require to be functioned. That's truly the lower line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I do not understand, I'm simply mosting likely to say a plumbing and you've got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would be a truly excellent usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it looks like the diesels are, they seem to have much less issues in vans than they do in the vehicles. Possibly since they aren't functioned so hard, however when things take place, they're really costly to deal with. We have actually got a great deal of videos and info regarding diesels, specifically the Fords.
You really need to assume twice about getting a diesel in a van. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is rather a lot restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and again, we're simply speaking concerning kind of a straight, routine freight van right here. Look at your objective, your usage, exactly how much weight you're hauling and that'll assist you make the choice.
Something that we have not discussed here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what model, they're readily available ever before from half lot to one heap chassis and in fact a few of the cutaway vans are really also more sturdy, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
But usually the drive trains, you recognize, I discover them to be practically equivalent. Mark: So let's speak about guiding and suspension. Just how do they contrast? Bernie: You know, I'm mosting likely to offer the edge to Ford on this. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's less steering affiliation entailed in a Chevy. So there are less parts to put on out. They do a ball joints that wear. So do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you understand, the steering linkage is much less difficult, so there's less parts and less products to wear.
The ride in a Ford is possibly a little bit more vehicle like yet I don't know if you 'd actually ever before really observed a distinction in between the 2. It seems like their parts are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some reason, they seem to last for one brake task. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. I think on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a bit more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually bad doors. I mean, the moving doors were crap, you know, actually badly developed. Actually, I would certainly state that if you are also taking a look at something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles generally truly took a leap onward in quality around the 2000 version year, due to the fact that there was a great deal of things where the brakes as an example would not last long at all.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I suggest, I would certainly state they're both probably quite much matching in top quality, fit and finish, you know, some of the passenger vans, of program we'll have nicer visits than the cargo vans. I can't claim that one of them stands out to me a bit even more than the various other.
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